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Newbie Lesson 3 - different ways to say "You"

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Newbie Lesson 3 - different ways to say "You"

Postby scubasteve60004936 » March 6th, 2011 10:48 am

I just started and I understand the formal/informal (vy and tibya). In lesson three they have "Ty" for the word "you". Is there some explantiaon about the difference between "vy" and "ty"?

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Postby russian_guy » June 16th, 2011 2:34 am

I can tell you there is a difference.

ВЫ vy* is more formal and used with people you don't know, people you just met, people you have respect for, or for many people (ex talking with your brother and sister ." you need to come here( вам надо там придти.))

Ты ty is used with close friends family animals even children whom you don't know. ex
сколько тебе лет? asking a child his age.
мне 8 лет. а вам? his reply (notice he uses вы form in dative case. it means that the person he is talking to is older and he shows this as sign of respect.

though kids use ty with their parents and family members they can be told to use vy with their older grandparents like great grandma's and grandpas
as a sign of respect.

any more questions let me know

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Postby sasuga3363352 » June 21st, 2011 12:24 pm

Hello, dear beginner in Russian,
the Russian guy's explanation is pretty good, so I have just a tiny thing to add.
Vy and ty are pronouns and in Russian they have declensions .
There are six case but for now I guess it is good to remember the first three:
Nominative vy ty Inicial (like dictionary form) Who are you? Кто вы? Кто ты?
Genitive vas tebya Used as an objective I see you. Я вижу вас. Я вижу тебя.
Dative vam tebe Used like to whom. I give this flower to you. Я дарю вам этот цветок. Я дарю тебе этот цветок.

Hope it is not too overwhelming,
Best regards,
Natalia


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